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debating an nra proposal to put armed guards in schools. >> i am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. i think the vast majority of the american people are skeptical that somehow is going to solve our problem. >> if you go into this capitol, you are going to be met with some armed fourses. if you go into a school house, the best solution to protect children is to have somebody there to stop the shooter, not get everybody's gun in the country. >> shannon: a task force led by vice-president joe biden has been established to find ways to curb gun violation. lawmakers are back on capitol hill. but are they any closer to reaching an agreement, aimed at heading off a fiscal meltdown? let's ask them. we have two congressmen here. gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> good to be here. >> shannon: congressman kucinich, the spending side, do you feel there are areas where the government could cut as part of this negotiation in process? >> certainly, i have been arguing for years, we could cut spending at the pentagon. there are a lot of programs that are wasteful. we could sto
debating an nra proposal to put armed guards in schools. >> i am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. i think the vast majority of the american people are skeptical that somehow is going to solve our problem. >> if you go into this capitol, you are going to be met with some armed fourses. if you go into a school house, the best solution to protect children is to have somebody there to stop the shooter, not get everybody's gun in the country. >>...
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it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have protection because if you don't have it we're sitting ducks. >> gun rights advocates estimate about 240 teachers in utah are licensed to carry concealed weapons. it's not known how many do so at school. >> this weekend thousands of people from across the country are headed to webster new york for services honoring two firefighters killed on duty. they were gunned down trying to put out a fire on christmas eve. the gunman torched his home and opened fire and later committed suicide. the two firefighters will be buried sunday and monday. those from around the u.s. are there for the funerals and thanks to
it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have...
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. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: as the debate in washington rages on, so do the classes on how to arm teachers in utah. >> we just want to make sure that people have the tools at their disposal to mitigate risk and save lives at the end of the day. >> reporter: this training was so popular, there's already another one planned for the next school break. for "good morning america," cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >>> switching gears, now, to how to lighten up the gloomy winter months? not just for us, but for your pets. apparently, it's all rooted in science. it turns out, your dog or your cat may be depressed. and the treatment that works for humans could also work for your pets. it's true. abc's dan harris has the story. >> reporter: of all the absurd things we do for our pets, the massages, the themed birthday parties, the treadmills, the high-end couture. the paris hilton $325,000 doghouse. >> inside is moldings and lighting and heat and air conditioning. >> reporter: of all of the over-the-top pampering, th
. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: as the debate in washington rages on, so do the classes on how to arm teachers in utah. >> we just want to make sure that people have the tools at their disposal to mitigate risk and save lives at the end of the day. >> reporter: this training was so popular, there's already another one planned for the next school break. for "good morning america," cecilia...
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yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to that, that's coming up in about 90 minutes. >>> shifting gears now, by now you've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployme
yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to...
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. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summoning congressional leaders to the white house, 3:00 this aft
. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private...
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the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >> erick, let me try this with you and then go back to lou cornell. i guess my point is, when you are looking at this discussion, it's not a discussion at all. everybody has their sort of own area that they want to talk about and no one is discussing, well, maybe we should discuss school safety. and the nra makes this point, when we want the make the president safe, he's surrounded by people with guns. when we want to make money safe at banks, we put men with guns there. so it's not as though it's a foreign concept to protect what is dear to people,
the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >>...
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that got the nra fired up. they spoke with carol costello and he said it's unfair and unsafe to name gun owners. >> these are all upstanding citizen who passed tests and have their own firearms and by listening, they do two things. most guns are either bought on the black market or stolen. if you are a criminal looking for a gun, you just have been given a map to where you find some. the paper said you would like the makes of guns that people own. have you in essence a catalog. it also tells you who isn't armed and therefore if you are not seeking a gun, but seeking television sets and the like through burglary, you know where to go. i think it was completely irresponsible and while it is probably not legally actionable, the fact is that this newspaper did this knowingly for the purpose of trying to demonize gun owners because they don't happen to believe in firearms. that's their right, but mistreating private individuals is not. >> the fact that the brady center agrees with you that this newspaper should not
that got the nra fired up. they spoke with carol costello and he said it's unfair and unsafe to name gun owners. >> these are all upstanding citizen who passed tests and have their own firearms and by listening, they do two things. most guns are either bought on the black market or stolen. if you are a criminal looking for a gun, you just have been given a map to where you find some. the paper said you would like the makes of guns that people own. have you in essence a catalog. it also...
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. >> that was nra president david keene speaking earlier today with cnn's carol costello. >>> hitching a hide to washington today with president obama is hawaii's next senator. brian schatz is currently the lieutenant governor. he's due to be sworn in this afternoon about three hours from now. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function. get your
. >> that was nra president david keene speaking earlier today with cnn's carol costello. >>> hitching a hide to washington today with president obama is hawaii's next senator. brian schatz is currently the lieutenant governor. he's due to be sworn in this afternoon about three hours from now. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd...
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one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get rid of the guns because they wanted them out of their house. >> people have every right to either own or not own a gun. that's what a free country is about. >> let's move on to the polls that i was talking about earlier. there are some who are as conservative as you can get who say the nra not listening to your own members. frank says a republican pollster had to say on cbs. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the 2nd amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not e
one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get...
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gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no? good idea or bad idea? >> bad. >> on balance bad. >> you probably heard about this, a lot of outrage. one blogger decided to fight back, you wonder whether that's a good or bad idea as well, when we come back. nts that pink cast. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. aww man.
gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no?...
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eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were recovered. three teens were arrested, the stores went into lockdown just in case. the mall reopened about an hour later, still trying to figure out the source of those popping sounds, but we'll keep you posted. but just look at that video, incredible. >>> coming up, new revelations about occupy wall street and what the fbi was doing to keep tabs on the movement. >>> plus, swamped in the street. how this bus ended up stuck in just a matter of seconds. we'll explain. >>> ali velshi in for soledad this morning -- >> talking about his post-christmas workout routine. >> coming up on "starting point" this morning,
eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were...
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laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says is he defecting to, quote, join the people's revolution. and the recovery in the housing market remains on pace. home prices rose 4.3% in october over last year, that is it the biggest percentage increase in more than two years. near record low mortgage rates and fewer foreclosures are helping spur sale which is in turn is boosting prices. and the world's longest high speed rail line is up and running and it's in, where else, china. the 1428 mile line spans more than half the country linking the capital of beijing to the southern chinese bloom city.
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i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don parata in the legislature in the late 1990s, the california assault weapons ban, also the saturday night special bill. we have very tough gun laws. we still have crimes, yes. but there's no question that they've helped to address some of the violence in our country. and i hope that we do act. we need to kt a. there are a lot of things that we could do to toughen our gun laws that are sensible and responsible. and the vast majority of people would agree on. >> mayor antonio villaraigosa, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you, carol. >>> let's shift gears
i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don...
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i thought wayne lapierre and the nra showed once again that, you know r know, wayne lapierre has been the single biggest gun block to sensible gun control and after the terrible tragedy just days ago, thought he would see movement. instead, they are back out there blaming everybody else but themselves and blaming everybody else, blaming the culture, blaming hollywood and blaming video tames and taking no responsibility and, you know, they have been the number one stumbling block to sensible gun control in this country, and i think finally the country is ready to move beyond it but they are not and that was a -- was, you know, breathtakingly out-of-touch announcement he had the other day, where they want to put more guns in schools. >> public opinion is clearly shifting the other way. anna, let's talk about your naughty pick. maybe we should mention handcuffs for this one. >> e.l. james, "fifty shades of grey." i have to tell you. i read all of the books for research. i -- i was doing an interview, an entertainment interview and had to do research, but tell me why you picked e.l. james
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how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there. >> lapeer says the nra is working with former republican congressman and former deputy director asa hutchinson to develop a more security program that would include how it's paid for. >> jamie: certainly in the senate the democrats are in control. they have the white house too with president obama. how are they reacting to this? >> on the capitol hill the reaction has been less than enthusiastic especially from democrats. here is more. >> well, i think is he so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually
how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy...
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he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just him. a lot of the members. you are a senator from virginia, mark warner. are you going to step up, lead on gun control initiative again? here is somebody will do it. mansion from west virginia. a guy who used a gun in his ads and shot a senate bill, used it as a target. he is stepping away. it is going to be fascinating. but i think they were able to -- how far can they go and still avoid a primary problem later on? >> karl, they are talking about it being broad. not just gun control. mental health. and cultural issues. like video games and hollywo
he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just...
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. >> reporter: laperriere says the nra hired former republican congressman asa hutchinson to develop a more in depth security plan for schools. hutchison, a also former deputy director of the department of homeland security, compares this debate to the debate over armed federal air marshals. >> it increased safety of airlines. it is not like it is an armed camp when you go on airlines. it is very discrete use of armed guards that has a presence there to protect america. our children less important to protect than our air transportation? i don't think so. >> reporter: but the reaction on capitol hill has been less than enthusiastic it especially from democrats. california democratic senator dianne feinstein calls it, a quote, delay tactic. others suggested that laperriere's plan might have the opposite effect on lawmakers. >> well i think he is so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually helps the cause of us passing sensible gun legislation in the congress. >> we have 10,000 elementary and secondary schools in this country. if you had two officers in each that would cost $25 billion
. >> reporter: laperriere says the nra hired former republican congressman asa hutchinson to develop a more in depth security plan for schools. hutchison, a also former deputy director of the department of homeland security, compares this debate to the debate over armed federal air marshals. >> it increased safety of airlines. it is not like it is an armed camp when you go on airlines. it is very discrete use of armed guards that has a presence there to protect america. our children...
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what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and it won't work in the future. >> we hear that and we know the position of the nra. is any logical conversation about trying to move forward on legislation kind of doomed out of the gate? >> if we actually allow ours to think that even the suggestion of the nra about arming guards in schools is something to be taken seriously. i hear pete williams talking about it as if it's even something that could be thinkable. look, just this morning you are reporting these firefighters getting shot. are we going to arm every fire station, every crew that goes out? are they going to have armed guards fo
what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and...
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the nra's ceo went on tv to defend. as barbara starr shows us, they're not backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. how many more? >> performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. wane laperriere, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political leaders for 20 years always say it's because americans own guns. i tell you what i think will make people safe, and what will make moms and dads feel better. when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy. >> as the last of the newtown massacre victims are laid to res
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the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was struck by what he said blaming the media and actually going out and reporting these facts that do take place, to let the american people what is going on, albeit it's very tragic and there have been copy-cats out there, but to blame the media out there. >> that is exactly right. there have been copy-cats out there. there has been kind of an iconic pre verse celebration of some of these killers who are sort of famous. there have been four movies made about the thrill killer, charles starkweather from the 1950s. four movies. i think another part of it is the im
the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was...
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it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun control legislation, they need to understand that there is nothing they can craft, no words, no verbiage that is going to prevent a guy like adam lanza from getting into a school and shooting children. it is not going to happen. there are other steps that need to be taken. david: like? >> number one, you need to have meaningful security at the front door. lanza was apparently able to break his way in. that's unacceptable. the door needs to resist what's called determined force entry attempts and the amount of time it takes -- david: some kind of wire meshing or bullet-proof glass? >> yes, t
it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun...
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>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye. >>> first at the top of the hour, at least two firefighters were killed after arriving at the scene of a fire. two other fire fighters were also wounded. at this point it's unknown how many shooters were involved. the firefighters were forced to retreat. they were not able to put the flames out. at least three homes and one vehicle are burning. firefighters are calling them a complete lost. the police chief says it's still an active crime scene. we have this from a reporter a bit earlier from the crime scene. okay. that is not the right piece of sound firefighters, again, involved in that. >>> now to the top of the block and the stories
>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye....
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. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the warmer parts of the country as well. >>> and finally, christmas will be a good time to do a little star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be very close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. i'm told you have to look to the east-southeast sky. wherever that may be. you'll see a bright silvery star. on christmas night. you can tell the children, it's santa returning to the north pole. >> will we be able to see it? isn't it going to be cloudy? >> we
. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through...
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shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now in the newsroom, the opening bell rang at the stock exchange. stocks will close early, 1:00 eastern for the holiday. if you're wondering who's ringing the bell, these are the 12 festive dancers from the monte carlo. i wish they'd ring the bell every day, don't you? onto the news. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo is apologizing after being arrested and charged with driv
shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get...
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the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back at 2008 and the court decision at that time regarding washington, d.c.'s gun control law, how might that decision come into play if at all. >> it's going to in some way. in a very narrow sense what the supreme court decision stands for is a very important thing. for the first time in american history the supreme court defined the second amendment. it said it does apply to an individual right to own a gun but it stands only for the constitutional right to possess a handgun in the home for self-defense. it doesn't say anything a
the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back...
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gregg: one town agrees on the nr with the nra. altoona, alabama, making sure one of its four officers are at the elementary school during school days. town residents seem to be on board with that. >> so thankful somebody will be here to stop that person because the person, the first thing i thought of is how rural we are here. that was a little rural town too, that never thought anything like that would happen to them. but we don't think that is going to happen to us either. >> we react we our emotion, if we don't do something for our school now i don't think we ever will. >>> there is always something to be done but having an officer there is the first line of defense. it drastically reduces response time. >> these teachers would take a bullet for their children and just a lot to ask because i know how much they love our children. and they do. i thank them so much. gregg: well the chief of police says the new commitment will cost a beg chunk of his budget but he is not willing to take any chances with the safety of children. heat
gregg: one town agrees on the nr with the nra. altoona, alabama, making sure one of its four officers are at the elementary school during school days. town residents seem to be on board with that. >> so thankful somebody will be here to stop that person because the person, the first thing i thought of is how rural we are here. that was a little rural town too, that never thought anything like that would happen to them. but we don't think that is going to happen to us either. >> we...
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the head of the nra answering critics over the weekend following his first comments since the tragedy here's nbc's ron mott. >> reporter: over the weekend the last of the funerals were held as victims a'families work to restart their lives after unthinkable losses. against that somber backdrop the political war of words about guns and the prominence around america grew more intense. on sunday in an exclusive appearance on "meet the press," the head of the nation's largest and most powerful gun lobby, the national rifle association, defended and expanded upon comments he made friday when he called on congress to fund armed officers in public schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. >> laperriere's position set off a flurry of public criticism, a sentiment shared by some long-time newtown residents. >> we lost 20 beautiful young children and six educators. it hurts to think we can't as a community come together with mor
the head of the nra answering critics over the weekend following his first comments since the tragedy here's nbc's ron mott. >> reporter: over the weekend the last of the funerals were held as victims a'families work to restart their lives after unthinkable losses. against that somber backdrop the political war of words about guns and the prominence around america grew more intense. on sunday in an exclusive appearance on "meet the press," the head of the nation's largest and...
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. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in schools. congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown calls the stance tone deaf and revolting. >>> a rel christmas gift, getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major trouble. not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in warmer parts of the country as well. >>> finally, christmas a good time to do star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. you have to look to the east southeast sky. wherever that may be. you can tell the children, it's santa returning to the north pole. >> will we be able to see it? >> we're going have a few clouds. other folks will be able to see it. >> there will be pictures of it. >> thanks for the debbie downer. >> the upper though? mom. mom. >> are you ready? >> i'm ready. >> let's do this. all right, here we go. we begin with the queen
. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in schools. congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown calls the stance tone deaf and revolting. >>> a rel christmas gift, getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major trouble. not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in warmer parts of the country as well. >>> finally, christmas a good time to do star-gazing. jupiter...
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the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, leave the area. call an adult. written by the best child psychologist experts in the country. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday, he'd been confronted by a qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, that 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you'd rather continue to risk the alternative? >> because that's your standard is that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here. and the standard is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be spared, shouldn't we try that. that's you
the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, leave the area. call an adult. written by the best child psychologist experts in the country. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started...
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he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed armed people. it is the cart before the horse in a way. i don't know. shouldn't we try to be a less violent society first? before we say that -- it is a tough question. >> clayton: you take your kids to school and you hold their hand and you want them to be safe. but is it what you want them to see walking by an armed guard? you want them safe, but is this where we are now as a society? that they have to walk past an armed guard. >> gretchen: maybe it would be conceal i get all of that, but it is still a cultural question for me.
he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed...
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. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering up an array of ideas, including universal background checks and tighter control laws. and he is exploring a run for the u.s. senate in 2014. >>> former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky, responded to an interview request with a pennsylvania newspaper with a letter from prison, written on a small scrap of paper. sandusky says he wants to talk to the citizens voice newspaper but told to keep quiet by his attorneys as they appeal his conviction for sexually abuses ten boys. he says he spends 23 hours a day in his cell at a supermax security prison. >>> the end of an era. "newsweek" released the cover of it
. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering...
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>>> the ahead of the nra fires back at critics, explaining why he wants to address gun violence in school with more guns. >>> retailers prepare for the last holiday hurrah as time tux away for shopping procras procrastinato procrastinators. >>> plus, a u.s. senator arrested on dui charges. the world's most expensive dinner. and "the hobbit" holds on. "early today" starts right now. >>> this is "early today" for monday, december 24, 2012. >> and a very good morning to you on this christmas eve, i'm veronica de la cruz. >>> days after the national rifle association's first public comments since the newtown massacre, critics are taking aim at the controversial plan to put armed guards in schools. the head of the powerful group is sticking to its guns on the explosive issue. one congress won't be able to do anything about until sometime next month. brian mooar has details. >> reporter: in his first interview after the connecticut shooting tragedy, nra chief wayne lapierre was defiant. >> look, a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. >> reporter: the powerful gun lobby and its allies ins
>>> the ahead of the nra fires back at critics, explaining why he wants to address gun violence in school with more guns. >>> retailers prepare for the last holiday hurrah as time tux away for shopping procras procrastinato procrastinators. >>> plus, a u.s. senator arrested on dui charges. the world's most expensive dinner. and "the hobbit" holds on. "early today" starts right now. >>> this is "early today" for monday, december...
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...
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should people fear the nra and why? where does this come from and why are they this untouchable group no one should challenge? >> there are 4 million members. they put their money where their mouth is, but in the last election cycle they didn't do well at all. they profiled certain senators for defeat and with the exception of one they all lost. they said that barack obama who has really been to call him cautious would be almost kind really silent on the issue. they said he would be a disaster. they lost with him. so i think that their political muscle has been very much diminished and whether it's been diminished or not people now who were formerly pro nra and were fearful of them are now ready to change their positions and vote against them. >> i want to move on and talk about the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner certainly taking a huge hit last week with his plan b proposal, didn't even get off the ground with his own party. where does this leave things now? >> in some ways boehner was prophetic and said only gods
should people fear the nra and why? where does this come from and why are they this untouchable group no one should challenge? >> there are 4 million members. they put their money where their mouth is, but in the last election cycle they didn't do well at all. they profiled certain senators for defeat and with the exception of one they all lost. they said that barack obama who has really been to call him cautious would be almost kind really silent on the issue. they said he would be a...
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the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model for the schools for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, don't touch them. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because i think this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, the 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you would rather consider to risk the alternative. >> that's your standard, that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here and the standard here is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be shared, shouldn't we try that, that's the standard, isn't it? >> my standard is this. you can't legislation moral
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers
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we passed that in philadelphia and was sued by the nra. on the 100th day in office in '08, one of the pridest moments of my entire elected krooir, lost and stolen. you have to report your car if it's stolen if you want a claim from the insurance company. you certainly have to do the same thing for a weapon. these are reasonable, rooishl, straight-forward things. new jersey has figured out how to protect the second amendment and making people safer and new york has as well. >> will these things fly in georgia and atlanta? >> first of all, i think you need to start the conversation by respecting the second amendment so that we don't have a discussion about the second amendment. so we respect that in georgia and value it. the second part, i think, really is the path laid by ronald regan. the most important bill that ronald regan worked on after he was president was the assault ban and the brady bill. the nra fought him tooth and nail -- they fought ronald reagan on the brady bill and on the assault-ban bill which ewe allowed to lapse. the oth
we passed that in philadelphia and was sued by the nra. on the 100th day in office in '08, one of the pridest moments of my entire elected krooir, lost and stolen. you have to report your car if it's stolen if you want a claim from the insurance company. you certainly have to do the same thing for a weapon. these are reasonable, rooishl, straight-forward things. new jersey has figured out how to protect the second amendment and making people safer and new york has as well. >> will these...
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we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the restroom and somebody breaks and from the front? how are they going to protect the children? how many children do we have to lose? host: thanks for the call -- let me share with you this photograph from "the new york daily news." a handful of students tried to flee and lanza shot teem. some of the other fallen students are in the photograph. because of the teacher process protection, most of her students survived a car. -- survived a the horror. asheville, north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to say one thing and i t
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the responsibility serve inner with the nra. never with gun owners, never the laws. always with video games and other things outside of that when people are not being killed they're watching a video game. they're being killed because they have access to a gun. >> it's upon nerve this country whether a firearms owner or not to work together to identify people who shouldn't have firearms. we've got, as i mentioned, 155 million people in homes that have at least one firearm. >> i agree with you. listen -- >> we're talking about -- >> we should be working with people, identifying people. >> we've got to. >> who should not have access to guns but can do that and not look at gun laws and gun enthusiasts and people who are, the nra members can't just say, we have to look at this and not look at that. >> okay. let's say for example that the a.r. 15 platform is banned. okay? it's banned. the next mentally disturbed individual who goes into an environment where it's a so-called gun-free zone, he can go in there, he or she, with a pistol,
the responsibility serve inner with the nra. never with gun owners, never the laws. always with video games and other things outside of that when people are not being killed they're watching a video game. they're being killed because they have access to a gun. >> it's upon nerve this country whether a firearms owner or not to work together to identify people who shouldn't have firearms. we've got, as i mentioned, 155 million people in homes that have at least one firearm. >> i agree...